Terms of Service. It’s the law of the digital land. A living document of what no-no’s apply to using the service. All for all kinds of reasons like; Keeping admins out of court… Keeping the FBI from kicking doors in… You know, all the fun stuff. =^-^=
So, SL has a ToS that it kind of doesn’t enforce. I mean, people get banned for violating it all the time… But, also, people get away with murder for years simply because they haven’t been reported. It’s a little unspoken rule. I mention it often:
“AR or it didn’t happen”
Yeah, that. (^_^)
It’s kinda like the forum/chat meme “pix or it didn’t happen”… It’s like, we won’t believe a thing until we see it first hand. (^_^)
Well, really, Linden Lab will not act on anything until someone is bothered enough to report it. Other than the rare case of a Labbie just happening upon really obvious stuff, just about everything slides until it’s reported. (-_-)
But, how do they act? It seems, if the claim ‘sounds’ legit enough, they’ll pop right no it. I’ve had a good number of Labbies land on my head moments after sending an AR. Usually over pretty obvious and legit stuff. So, I’m confident that they’re doing their job at least a little bit. =^-^=
But, then there are peeps who lack that confidence. That’s when we get AR parties. (>_<)
Okay, so when I AR something and I see no action, I let it pass. I’m happy to assume I misinterpreted the ToS, a Labbie looked into my report, and there was no valid violation. (o.o)
Lesson learned, no? (^_^)
Well… No. (=_=)
For some people, that ain’t enough. What started as “this person violated blabla by blablaing another blabla” to “I am not satisfied with how things are done and I will scream until you obey me!” DX
That’s really what an AR party is saying, ain’t it? (=_=)
I mean, if you think such a thing is actually necessary, then you probably had a history of being ignored… Probably because you been crying wolf all along? =^-^=
But, anyway, there are those out to “force the hands of the gods”… (=_=)
Like, as a revenge move, ARing you for being underage or ageplay, or whatever kind of quick&dirty thing will impact your account the most. (>_<)
I got a biiiiiiiiiig problem with this. (=_=)
Why? Because sometimes, it works! (T_T)
I’ve seen, over and over, people getting suspended and even terminated over things they’ve never done, filed by a person who simply doesn’t like them. Which may just be a bit bad if the lab were to turn around and look at the details. (>_<)
I mean, they did with me. Years ago. I got B& for “ageplay” while in a grown-up avatar, on PG land, dressed in a PG manner, during a PG building event. I fought all high hell over it and got the lab to apologize. (^_^)
Others ain’t been so lucky. (>_<)
I know of a couple people with completely terminated accounts based on vague claims of repeated violations of something they’ve possibly NEVER involved themselves in. (=_=)
Add, when appealing, they get told that no mistake was made. (T_T)
Jeebus, a vigilante’s dream come true. DX
And, of course, that’s who uses it most. (-_-)
The big hubbub lately has been over the JLU and their practices of what’s starting to look like simply getting rid of anyone they don’t like. (O.o)
Or, simply, peeps is abusing a system ripe for abuse. (-_-)
And who gets in trouble? Surely NOT the abuser. According to docs, they reported a “wrong” and the lab acted appropriately. (=_=)
Blergh… Not good!! DX
I see this AR thingie… It needs reforming. (-_-)
ARs need to be actionable and directly connectable to the ToS. Instead of the existing (and outdated) list of reasons, put in a drop box of the actual ToS/CS guidelines. Yeah, that’ll make the form tougher to fill out, but, stick with me a minute. XD
ARs need to be valid. Once someone has picked the specific violation, it better be frigg’n true. There should be a score against false or misleading ARs. If this score adds up, well, THERE’s your abuser. (=_=)
But, that score, it’s gotta be real. I mean, INVESTIGATE y’alls ARs. A Labbie gotta be on the ball for any AR. Since the ToS violation is clear-cut as picked from the list, shouldn’t be any guesswork, eh? (-_-)
And, really, treat a false abuse report with the same impact as it would have had if the report were true. If someone BLOODY LIES about another being a CP peddlar, well, they’re putting someone at risk of full-on termination and possibly even criminal investigation. (=_=)
What if someone were to do that in real life? What if you’re enjoying a sno-cone while sitting on a public park bench and some psycho popps on the cell phone to report that you just fondled their kid? It’s nearly the same, ain’t it? Obviously, in scale it ain’t… Maybe. (>_<)
But, that’s the ticket. At this moment, the environment is in place for someone to lie about you and effectively ruin your virtual life. I’d love to say I’m being paranoid. But, I’ve had it happen to me, I’ve seen it happen to others, and I’ve even seen the exposure of who’s doing it on a practically organized level. (=_=)
There’s a word for it…
I like Second Life. I don’t mind Linden Lab. But, I can’t stand the pins and needles people tend to be on when such a threat to their account status looms overhead. (>_<)
Wanna talk about customer retention? Stop terminating your customers. (=_=)
It will be work, but, that’s what we’re paying the Labbies for, ain’t it? (o.O)
Since then, much of the Justice League has been retreating to hiding places with their tails between their legs. They won’t directly answer questions. They been persistently contradicting each other when they do speak up. Really, cowering like any other fraud under investigation. =^-^=
So, anyway, TL/DR… Here is the chatlog of the inworld SLCC 2011 panel… Expect really ugly formatting. XD
Avatar Identity: Privacy and Transparency in Social Media
[2011/08/14 14:31] Second Life: Teleport completed from http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/SLCC%203/135/164/30
[2011/08/14 14:32] Object: whispers: A landmark to this destination has been placed in your inventory.
[2011/08/14 14:32] Second Life: You decline ‘SLCC 11 – MOMA – Artistic & Creative , Social & Communities’ ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/SLCC%201/147/116/25 ) from <nolink>Object</nolink>.
[2011/08/14 14:52] Nyx Ivory: good one, Ceorl! way to spin positive
[2011/08/14 14:52] Devon Alderton: indeed….
[2011/08/14 14:52] Ceorl Onlyone: thx Nyx, yes we all know it is a minefield out there :)
[2011/08/14 14:53] Devon Alderton: Yes, Pygar.
[2011/08/14 14:53] Nyx Ivory: and good point from Pygar – about leveling the field
[2011/08/14 14:53] LeonTubrok Beaumont: no rson why avis have to be publicly linked to rl people solong as tracable if needed for security issues
[2011/08/14 14:53] Devon Alderton: but it’s two approaches. the approach of be a passive consumer of entertainment …shopping, music, dj’s, machinima….
[2011/08/14 14:54] Salazar Jack: Wry tweet from @ZeMoo… â€œ@meta_verse @zero @gwenners No livestream from the #SLCC Privacy & Transparancy debate @SLCC for #Privacy reasons i guess… Thumbs up! .)â€
[2011/08/14 14:54] Pygar Bu: heh!
[2011/08/14 14:54] Ceorl Onlyone: haha :)
[2011/08/14 14:54] Nyx Ivory: *snort* :-D
[2011/08/14 14:54] Devon Alderton: notice machinima makers stand apart and watch…or set up the stage and film it
[2011/08/14 14:54] Devon Alderton: and the approach of come in, get competent, build, hack the culture. for that, you need privacy
[2011/08/14 14:55] Devon Alderton: active participants need privacy.
[2011/08/14 14:55] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): Agree with Devon there
[2011/08/14 14:55] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): “Twitter doesn’t give a d**n about what you say your name is” – Yoz Linden. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 14:55] LeonTubrok Beaumont: the push to sell us stuff what makes them want us publicly linked to rl :-/
[2011/08/14 14:55] Pygar Bu: Pygar Bu smiles
[2011/08/14 14:55] Salazar Jack: Salazar Jack claps
[2011/08/14 14:55] Devon Alderton: yes..and how many of us use google for alt identities?
[2011/08/14 14:55] Devon Alderton: indeed, Leon
[2011/08/14 14:56] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): well…..they make money OFF of our information
[2011/08/14 14:56] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): which burns my butt because it’s MY information
[2011/08/14 14:56] Devon Alderton: yes….
[2011/08/14 14:56] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): why do THEY get the money?
[2011/08/14 14:56] LeonTubrok Beaumont: they came pretty quick with patriot bill but doubt as quick other way round when public want privacy
[2011/08/14 14:56] Pygar Bu: I opened a G+ acct for this avie – I don’t do much there, except read Crap’s 100 word stories.. :-)
[2011/08/14 14:57] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): Fleep is mentioning her duration on Google mail and why her account of over 5 years now has to be modified for a service introduced nearly a month agi. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 14:57] Devon Alderton: indeed, Leon….
[2011/08/14 14:57] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): @Leon: good point
[2011/08/14 14:57] Devon Alderton: yes, good point Fleep
[2011/08/14 15:02] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): ** Keep in mind, I’m trying to find the highlights of a rather lively conversation. I’m trying to be as accurate as possible but I may be making mistakes. ** (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:02] Salazar Jack: Tweet from Yoz Linden: “Am at the #SLCC Privacy & Identity panel. Several of my personas have been looking forward to this one. #slcc11 #PaintingABigTargetOnMySelf”
[2011/08/14 15:02] Pygar Bu: haha!!
[2011/08/14 15:02] Nyx Ivory: in the physical world been fighting an ongoing battle protecting a “celebrity” with scads of fakers
[2011/08/14 15:02] Ceorl Onlyone: we appreciate the effort Immy :)
[2011/08/14 15:02] Devon Alderton: I liked SaveMe Oh’s experiment with replicating her persona
[2011/08/14 15:03] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): One in the crowd, unknown name, is listing off the possible excuses that providers will make for demanding legal names for the sake of legal accountability. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:04] Ceorl Onlyone: it was good to hear Rodvik speak out for privacy too, reassuring
[2011/08/14 15:04] Pygar Bu: ty, Sal for keeping us up on tweets too
[2011/08/14 15:04] Salazar Jack: Salazar Jack shoots pistol fingers at Pygar
[2011/08/14 15:04] Devon Alderton: Ha! Immy, we’ve heard them all before!
[2011/08/14 15:04] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): Rod continues to give me hope that he *gets it* about SL and avatars and privacy
[2011/08/14 15:05] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): “There’s a real good reason why the Alphaville Herald is hosted by Dream host. They don’t roll over [and compromise privacy] easily” – Pix. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:05] Salazar Jack: This streamis working… http://www.ustream.tv/channel/slcc3
[2011/08/14 15:10] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): HA! Hiro grew up where scenes from the Stepford Wives were filmed. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:11] Tammy Nowotny: “Corporations are people, my friend!”
[2011/08/14 15:11] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): theres also the issue of an EVEN PLAYING FIELD – many of us have abilities or capabilities that we are not able to use with our RL identities that we are empowered to use as avatars
[2011/08/14 15:11] Devon Alderton: eeek! I always think of that when I see the new account avis. marching along Main Street
[2011/08/14 15:11] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): oh, god the Stepford Wives….<shudder>
[2011/08/14 15:11] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): “I use ‘Riven’ when I make a political statement because I don’t want my associates bothered by the effects of making such a statement.”
[2011/08/14 15:11] Nyx Ivory: Nyx Ivory nods agreement at Sky
[2011/08/14 15:15] Devon Alderton: but Gentle, RL researcher disclosure, you mean, not participant?
[2011/08/14 15:15] Nyx Ivory: we respect their levels of comfort – both sides need assurances of good intent
[2011/08/14 15:15] Gentle Heron: both, Devon
[2011/08/14 15:15] Devon Alderton: Tommy!
[2011/08/14 15:15] Tammy Nowotny: Nyx can share RL identity with clients without sharing it with whole universe. even in RL, consultants often work confidentially
[2011/08/14 15:15] Gentle Heron: informed consent MUST be given by the RL person
[2011/08/14 15:15] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): Draxter is mentioning how he has practically “Brand” established his name so that he would be a supportive go to for political and activist contacts. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:16] Devon Alderton: I respectfully disagree on that on the client side.
[2011/08/14 15:16] Devon Alderton: but my work is social science, not medical.
[2011/08/14 15:16] Gentle Heron: I eagerly await Tom Bollestorff’s book on VW research. I know that’s an issue researchers have to deal with.
[2011/08/14 15:17] Devon Alderton: IRBs don’t require it of clients in the survey/interview type research.
[2011/08/14 15:17] Gentle Heron: They don’t require informed consent in some kinds of research, that’s true.
[2011/08/14 15:17] Devon Alderton: I have had to gently shoo some researchers back to their faculty committees for not having informed consent in place….
[2011/08/14 15:18] Devon Alderton: but it never requires identity disclosure of the participant
[2011/08/14 15:18] Nyx Ivory: interesting – a diff angle, Devon – not thought about that
[2011/08/14 15:18] Gentle Heron: Gentle Heron needs the contact info for Devon’s IRB.
[2011/08/14 15:19] Nyx Ivory: agreeing in part with Draxtor’s “branding” concept
[2011/08/14 15:19] Devon Alderton: So do I…jsut changed institutions and have to get the new one up to speed
[2011/08/14 15:19] Gentle Heron: Draxtor IS a brand, after all
[2011/08/14 15:19] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): One from the crowd, name unknown, is referencing how keeping RL and virtual separate can have an impact on someone’s ability to be hired. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:19] Pygar Bu: yes, Nyx
[2011/08/14 15:19] Gentle Heron: Here’s what’s funny. I think folks would hire Gentle before they’d hire her typist.
[2011/08/14 15:19] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): That unknown person, I can relate to that
[2011/08/14 15:20] Ceorl Onlyone: yes, social media allows an interviewer to get answers to questions they are not allowed to ask
[2011/08/14 15:20] Gentle Heron: Hello Krull!!!
[2011/08/14 15:20] Devon Alderton: We are seeing more and more of this…the company that isdoing social media research for employers on applicatns
[2011/08/14 15:20] Devon Alderton: and those FB reHey, CeAire!
[2011/08/14 15:20] Hi gentle ã‹¡
[2011/08/14 15:21] Pygar Bu: I mention my involvement in SecondLife on my resume, but don’t disclose my SL name
[2011/08/14 15:21] LeonTubrok Beaumont: yeh avi names can become a ‘brand’
[2011/08/14 15:21] Devon Alderton: smart, Pygar.
[2011/08/14 15:21] Gentle Heron: It is quite possible to demonstrate employment and employability skills in SL.
[2011/08/14 15:21] Pygar Bu: (if they really wanna know, they can ask me personally ;-) )
[2011/08/14 15:21] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): I’ve have soem form of my name on the Internet since the early 90s
[2011/08/14 15:21] Devon Alderton: Anyone can find mine….in two seconds or less.
[2011/08/14 15:22] Devon Alderton: yes, Gentle…and so many folks can blossom in here in ways that they couldn’t so quickly in RL.
[2011/08/14 15:22] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): Mari is reflecting on what it means to build a reputation in its own name (her Second Lifeâ„¢ name as a point) that needs to be held and protected like any other identity. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:22] Pygar Bu: my RL internet handles are simialr enough to my RL name it’s not difficlut to associate them
[2011/08/14 15:22] Nyx Ivory: I suspect Botgirl wd be with us on the brand thing
[2011/08/14 15:22] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): That was making earlier, Devon – an avatar identity can empower a person
[2011/08/14 15:23] LeonTubrok Beaumont: think if protecting an avi name for a brand means also taking up that name on other worlds, that can get to be a pain
[2011/08/14 15:23] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): @Nyx: definitely about Botgirl
[2011/08/14 15:23] Devon Alderton: Leon, it seems like a business idea to me…..protect and register your name for you
[2011/08/14 15:23] Gentle Heron: Note to Oakland- There are over 100 different peer support groups in SL just in English.
[2011/08/14 15:24] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): be interesting if a sort of central virtual world registry came into being
[2011/08/14 15:24] LeonTubrok Beaumont: yes devon, it has a value
[2011/08/14 15:24] Pygar Bu: yes, Skye!
[2011/08/14 15:24] LeonTubrok Beaumont: that would be an ideal sky
[2011/08/14 15:24] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): that’d be the “create identity once, use everywhere’ concept
[2011/08/14 15:25] Devon Alderton: and we sort of have that with sign in via Twitter, FB, etc
[2011/08/14 15:25] LeonTubrok Beaumont: posssible in concept, site where u submit name and then they regester than in all possible worlds and sites
[2011/08/14 15:25] Nyx Ivory: several universal sign-in things – not yet trusting any
[2011/08/14 15:25] Nyx Ivory: OA etc
[2011/08/14 15:25] Devon Alderton: yes, Nyx…that’s the issue…trust.
[2011/08/14 15:25] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): I’m waiting for one to become the more-or-less de facto registrar
[2011/08/14 15:26] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): A few people are talking about attempts to apply for jobs using experience they’ve gained by being in Second Lifeâ„¢ but the interviewer/HR have managed to ignore what they accomplished under the pesudonym. (^_^)
[2011/08/14 15:26] iSkye Bonde (iskye.silverweb): it’d be like a ICANN for avatar identities
[2011/08/14 15:26] Devon Alderton: can it be set up on a barge somewhere in international waters?
[2011/08/14 15:26] LeonTubrok Beaumont: yeh needs a standars likes regertring a website
[2011/08/14 15:26] Immy (imnotgoing.sideways): Hiro almost accidentally broke the table. XD
[2011/08/14 15:26] Devon Alderton: you can put that stuff on your resume….but how to verify it….put it in linked in.
[2011/08/14 15:26] Pygar Bu: Whoops!
[2011/08/14 15:26] Nyx Ivory: (reminds me – need to look at QR codes again)
My account name is Imnotgoing Sideways. My friends refer to me as Immy. I am nearing my 4th year in Second Life. I rarely miss a day. I have logged in from my home and my office in California. I have logged in from Japan, Korea, Viet Nam, Australia, Taiwan, and China. I have 2 premium accounts. I own an estate sim with a homestead on the side and around 1/6th of a sim in various mainland parcels scattered about. I was a Second Life Mentor. I am a New Citizens Inc. volunteer. I build, script, play, dance, chat, help, advise, organize, buy, sell, and entertain.
One might conclude that I find Second Life rather interesting.
I have been a member of many groups. The most prominent being Second Life Mentors, New Citizens Inc., Builder’s Brewery, Mental Mentors, and the now terminated Woodbury University.
I have many alternate accounts. Around 20, last I checked. Not any one of my accounts has a valid suspension or termination on record.
I am not free from controversy. My sense of humor doesn’t recognize common social taboo. I am quite outspoken in respect to provocative subjects involving virtual worlds, the real world, and the internet in general. As such, I have had my fair share of online ‘battles’.
Now that you know more about me than you probably wanted to know, I would like to address an issue regarding a specific group of individuals. Namely, the Justice League Unlimited.
I have long been vocal against their actions and practices. They have spent much of their time in SL overstepping their bounds as customers of Linden Lab. While on the surface they appear to be comic book super heroes in costume, they are little more than the minor internet personalities as anyone else you would meet in Second Life. Their aspirations do not match.
Initially, my perception of the group was that of governance abusers. In discovering a situation they deem inappropriate, they would crowd source Abuse Reports in order to force the hand of the governance team Lindens to strike. When they can’t find a specific TOS violation to report, they pick from the “easy” ones in order to get a response on their target. Most typically being ‘underage’ and ‘sexual ageplay’.
So, already they have created an environment in which they are empowered to have nearly anyone in Second Life suspended and/or terminated for any reason or no reason at all.
More recently, there have been incidences of ‘hacker’ activities which reveal the inside operations of this group. An inside that they’d prefer nobody ever find. They have amassed a database and wiki of information about Second Life residents. Connections to real life information, alternate accounts, and inworld activities are all logged in a fashion which represents their targets in a negative light. My own avatar account is included in this wiki and has been for a while.
So, in spite of my lack of abuses, reputation as a helper and volunteer, and overall contribution to Second Life; I am a “Griefer”.
But, this is not about name calling. This is about how they react to my presence inworld. Moreso, how they react to many people inworld. Because of this, many people are at risk of falling victim to their abuse of governance inworld. I have observed people suspended and terminated for violations which are totally unrelated to their inworld activity. I have friends who’s accounts remain terminated for reasons unknown or indecipherable violations. I may be sounding paranoid, but, I am deeply concerned over if I’ll be next. I have developed this concern over observations spanning years.
I’m well aware that the simple answer would be to report the JLU members for their actions and I have done so. Many people have done so. With all reports being landing upon deaf ears. In addition, their own logs report social connections within employee ranks of Linden Lab which they leverage in order to influence a bias to their operations.
Former Lindens such as Plexus and Socrates have been documented as contacts they can use in addition to current Lindens on staff, namely Soft Linden being the most visible example. The Justice League have been abusing this relationship to manipulate many incidences to lean in their favour. In result, their chat logs contain many incidents of boasting, gloating, and posturing in regards to these inroads with Lab staff.
Linden Lab cannot continue to hide these facts in silence. While the targets have been named ‘griefers’ the real griefers have established themselves a position of judge, jury, executioner, and untouchable. While people are being suspended and terminated over false claims, the JLU have been able to boldly violate the TOS and CS without sanction.
This group and the people that make it up are mired with delusions of grandeur. Some grandeur provided to them via inroads within Linden Lab support staff. They have been caught, over and over, in acts of stalking, logging, lying, identity theft, and conflict of interest violations. They have labeled decent Second Life customers as criminals. They have targeted harmless Second Life customers as griefers. They have purposely falsified information while targeting whistle-blowers and dissenters.
They have established an environment in Second Life in which customers, once aware of them, will often decide to financially back out of the grid.
Your customers are screaming.
What may have started as a popularity contest is now a lifestyle affecting war of words.
I was there at your keynote speech at SLCC. I heard you speak of retention and dealing with griefers. I was the one who hounded you to get a forum avatar up at the SLU forums. I heard the mantra of the audience, saying “He really gets it”. I believe you get it. As a paying customer, I boldly request you get with it.
I am Imnotgoing Sideways
I love Second Life
I enjoy Second Life
I contribute to Second Life
Please, don’t let these thugs manipulate Second Life.
Took a peek at the SL forums this morning and spotted a confuzzled dood who’s trying to figure out what kind of bug PE has… (^_^)
Well*sigh* Hi, i found a not so nice bug within the equivalence calculation… i’ve created a meshwindow with the equivalence of 1 prim, now for my house i need a second and so i rezzed another one… but here comes the bug, when i link the windows the properties show me 2 prim equal to 1 prim and the object even took only 1 prim on the land.. shall not bother me… but when i link the windows with my house(made of 28 prims) the properties and even the land info are showing me that the house is equal to 295 prims and they are taken on the land. Ok easy and fastest solution to not link the windows.
Maybe someone could explain that so i can understand this, pls
That’s perfectly normal. Not a bug. (^_^)
What you have is what I’ll call “Fractional PE” objects. I’ve been experimenting with them since the open beta. Basically, a properly optimized simple mesh with simple physics will have a PE of less than 1. (^_^)
But, the build dialogue treats the PE as an integer. So, from having a PE from 0.01 to 1.00, the display PE will be 1. =^-^=
Get two mesh objects with a PE of 0.50 and link them together, the resulting PE will remain 1 after summing and rounding the linkset. (^_^)
I checked with Charlar and he stated that this value will always be rounded in order to avoid confusing people. So, at this point, it’ll be up to the uploader to indicate the fractional value of the PE, if it’s important. (^_^)
You’ll find it while uploading. When you get your upload quote, look at the far lower left of the upload dialogue, you’ll see PE displayed in a 0.00 format. This gives you an opportunity to record the resulting fractional value in addition to simply cancelling the upload to pop back in to your mesh app and cleaning some details up in order to reduce the number. (^_^)
Less is more! =^-^=
Here’s the fun part. As long as we continue to have this fractional PE, it’ll be a boon for mesh building materials. Sort of like, reinventing prims. There’s no super good reason to make an entire house out of a single mesh. Right now, we have Box, Prism, Cylinder, Sphere… as prims. Well, imagine building a house with Wall-2windows, Wall-1door, WindowFrame, DoorFanWindow “prims”… Nearly all having fractional prim values. =^-^=
Prefab makers, the old texture stores, and inworld builders with no mesh experience will still have great tools to work with, if not better. (^_^)
Now… To address your GAIN in PE. I’m assuming the rest of the house is made of regular prims. Be it hollow boxes and various other things to be as prim-efficient as possible. Well, here’s the fatal flaw. Prims are the most inefficient building materials on the grid. Really, they’re lag nightmares by default. How else can we explain why games with apparently 10x the detail can get 100FPS on computers which can only get 10FPS in SL? (>_<)
So, when building with mesh, while exersizing efficiency and reducing the overall prim count… When linked to a regular prim build or adding scripts, the lag is taken into account and the overall score is changed. (^_^)
My mindset is; while building in prims, the prim count is an old an innacurate measuring method of resource usage. Mesh and PE is more along the lines of “LAG POINTS”… A far more reasonable score for the effect each linkset has on the server, network, and client. Reduce ~that~ number by making more efficient prim-replacing mesh components, and watch lag fade away. =^-^=